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Old 08-27-2007, 07:17 AM   #11
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I would love a cheap steel tank but I think the only way to get a break on steel is to find one used. The only reason I looked at the neutral AL80 was because it had similar weight characteristics-not as good as steel but also not as expensive. When I dive locally I will use my tanks-not sure what they will be yet, and when I do the resort dive I will be using the rental tanks. Around here I need the heavy wetsuit so the steel looks good until I see the price tag.
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Old 08-27-2007, 06:59 PM   #12
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phil @divesports and divers supply have the cheap steel 77 cf tanks about 200 dollars,im getting ready to buy some. anyone know if scubatoys has any,i havent seen them on their website.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:09 PM   #13
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After much consideration I am leaning toward one of these HP 100s
http://scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=X7100

The size, amount of air, weight, boyancy and price all seem to be right. Thanks for the input.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:03 PM   #14
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I think Phil might have the only stock of the LP77's but I'm not sure. I know he was the first. I have a set of double LP77's and love them.
NAL80, don't waste your money.
Before anyone says that the LP77 doesn't hold the same amount of air, check the XS scuba web page. Almost identical to an AL80.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:44 PM   #15
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At 6'1" & recently down from 232lbs, I can tell you I trimmed out much easier with hp steel 100.
I rarely get as complete a fill as a 3000psi tank, still with the additional air I even up to my wife when she dives an al80 (she's 5'4").

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Old 09-22-2007, 08:29 PM   #16
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You also might want to consider that a steel tank will last about 40 years if it is taken care of.
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Old 09-27-2007, 08:11 AM   #17
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After much consideration I am leaning toward one of these HP 100s
http://scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=X7100

The size, amount of air, weight, boyancy and price all seem to be right. Thanks for the input.

Steel is the way to go...
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I use a neutral-buoyancy AL80 I purchased at ScubaToys. It can be filled to 3300, although nobody has ever filled it to that.I'm lucky if I get 2900.
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I use a neutral-buoyancy AL80 I purchased at ScubaToys. It can be filled to 3300, although nobody has ever filled it to that.I'm lucky if I get 2900.
That is one of the reasons I wanted to go with a 100cf tank. Normally the tanks barely make 3000psi at the lds...a 100cf at 2900psi will have more air than the 80cf tank.
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After much consideration I am leaning toward one of these HP 100s
http://scubatoys.com/store/detail.asp?product_id=X7100

The size, amount of air, weight, boyancy and price all seem to be right. Thanks for the input.
Pretty much the perfect all-around tank.

Neutral Al.80s are pretty pointless, IMO. Too heavy (on land) for the amount of air you get, by far, and you're less likely to get a decent fill since no one thinks to pump an aluminum tank up to 3300, unless they *think* they're being generous.

Al.80:
2800psi=72cf
2900psi=75cf
3000psi=77.4cf
3100psi=80cf (overfill, dangerous to Al)
3200psi=83cf (overfill, dangerous to Al)
3300psi=85cf (overfill, dangerous to Al)

Al.80N
2800psi=66cf
2900psi=68cf
3000psi=70cf
3100psi=73cf
3200psi=75cf
3300psi=77.4cf
3400psi=80cf (overfill, dangerous to Al)

HP100:
2800psi=81cf
2900psi=84cf
3000psi=87cf
3100psi=90cf
3200psi=93cf
3300psi=96cf
3400psi=99cf
3442psi=100cf
3500psi=102cf (slight overfill, not dangerous to steel)
3600psi=105cf (slight overfill, not dangerous to steel)
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